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spammy
Twinstar


Joined: Jan 29, 2012
Posts: 226
Location: Adelaide
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:29 am |
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So I received a Forseti complete engine gasket set today, first time I had ever ordered one and it came with 16 valve stem seals which I didn't expect and I think is a huge bonus as they can be expensive by themselves. I paid AU $130. What do you guys think or what is your experience. Thanks. |
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cliffiec
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Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 5434
Location: Central Maine/Arizona
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:49 pm |
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Get a set of Viton Valve Stem seals from Genesound, as well has the hardened cam cap bolts, and use them in your build. |
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JJam
Red CB1100F


Joined: Nov 08, 2009
Posts: 3801
Location: Sandy OR
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:19 pm |
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Every complete gasket kit I have ever had. Came with the valve guide seals. I through all of them away and buy Viton seals from Genesound. |
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1337
Silver CB900F


Joined: May 11, 2014
Posts: 1018
Location: San Diego
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:29 pm |
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The viton seals that Genesound sells are superior. |
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DirtyT
Hawk


Joined: Nov 05, 2009
Posts: 442
Location: East Bay, Calif
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:17 pm |
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| cliffiec wrote: |
| Get a set of Viton Valve Stem seals from Genesound, as well has the hardened cam cap bolts, and use them in your build. |
+1 A lot of the valve seals out there are crap - they don't last. The viton seals sold by Genesound are first rate, everyone should use them. I highly recommend the hardened cam cap bolts as well, the OEM bolts are too easy to snap - and when that happens you're in deep poo. Ed |
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genesound
Red CB1100F


Joined: Feb 20, 2006
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Location: Studio City, California
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:04 pm |
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Thanks guys.
Just click on the blue links in my sig for more info.
Shipping to Oz for the bolts is a bit spendy due to weight, but they still come out cheaper than the stock OEM bolts, and they're far superior. |
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spammy
Twinstar


Joined: Jan 29, 2012
Posts: 226
Location: Adelaide
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Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:18 pm |
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Thanks for the advice, do the bolts still snap if torqued correctly. |
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genesound
Red CB1100F


Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Posts: 11912
Location: Studio City, California
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Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:21 am |
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They're much stronger than the stock bolts, which I believe were over spec'd at 9-12 ft lbs.
I broke stock bolts torqued to 10.5 ft lbs with a high dollar SnapOn inch pound torque wrench many years
ago. 12 ft lbs is really too much for the stock ones, and unnecessary. I think Brent said he sets his at 8 ft lbs.
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Grade 12.9 6 mm socket head bolt kits with washers for the cam holders (cam tower caps) are much stronger
than the stock bolts. The stock Honda bolts like to break. The guys that have tried these on the DOHC I-4s and
CBXs really like them. I did a rudimentary stress test, and they held over 14.5 ft lbs without any problem, and
felt very firm. I recommend about 9 ft lbs on them, so as not to overburden the threads in the aluminum head.
These require a 5mm Allen Head driver. |
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spammy
Twinstar


Joined: Jan 29, 2012
Posts: 226
Location: Adelaide
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Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:41 am |
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Good to know all this, I hate snapping bolt heads. |
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cliffiec
Friend of the Board


Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 5434
Location: Central Maine/Arizona
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Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:49 am |
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| spammy wrote: |
| Good to know all this, I hate snapping bolt heads. |
Yup, BTDT... |
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sixdog
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Joined: Sep 08, 2009
Posts: 428
Location: San Juan Capistrano CA
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Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:39 pm |
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plus one on the bolts!!!!! |
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