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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This morning, I finally installed the rearset brackets and pedals I got off of eBay about five years ago. Took two more years to find the correct pegs for them; and I still need to fabricate a brake pedal return spring...

...but I actually got to ride the bike today!!!

Had to dodge snow drifts, and there's more sand on the streets than you can shake a stick at--so it's back in the garage for now.

Tomorrow, I'm going to start on the Hondaline sport fairing that came off eBay about two years ago. The big issue there is that the fairing came from a V65 Sabre; so the paint is wrong and so is the mounting bracket. I do "OK" at fabricating, but it's not like I WANT this to be difficult. If I could have found the proper brackets, I'd have gotten them. Wish me luck...at this point, I've never seen a sport fairing installed on an F in person. I hope I manage to get the height and angle correct.
 
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motomoon
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Schurkey wrote:

...but I actually got to ride the bike today!!!


Congratulations! That must've felt pretty sweet!
Very Happy
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

Congrats!
Any pics? Very Happy
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No pics yet--there'll be some in a day or three.

The fairing is "cobbled" onto the frame while I try to get the alignment and height correct.

I've looked all over this web site for photos of Fs with the sport fairing; not many of the pictures are useful for determining fairing position in relation to the rest of the bike.

Of course, I can't be too far off if the lowers fit the engine decently.

Working on V.2 of the main fairing mount in about an hour...


I used to think that there was ONE Hondaline sport fairing; with various bracket sets for use on F, X, Sabre, etc. After looking at photos on this web site--and the installation instructions I downloaded here--I've come to the conclusion that there must be at least two versions of the fairing plastic. In my case, the back of the fairing has only one hole to attach to the lowers; there isn't enough plastic at the back for the second hole on each side.

My mirror mounts seem different, too.

To me, this is typical Honda "We've already paid the engineers, might as well make them change something..."
 
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elcman
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Funny stuff, now let's see some pictures. And um yeah my time frame for projects is similar, congrats on getting to ride.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Fairing is mounted to the frame; all the brackets are tack-welded so they each need to come back off for proper welding (tomorrow!)

I'm basing a lot of my dimensions off of the fairing lowers--If they fit along side the engine, and the fairing fits the lowers...I figure I can't be too far off.

That said--the fairing is lower on the bike than I expected. My knee pad on the left is right at the fuel tank petcock. And the "intake cam" chrome button for the valve cover is pretty much covered up. This has been very slow going; 'cause I keep thinking the fairing should be positioned differently--but then I re-build the bracket and NO, the fairing clearly does not want to be "there". It was happier where it was.

But it seems pretty good side to side; the tilt is OK side to side; there's clearance at the front for the instrument panel to swing with the steering--I think its positioned as good as it's gonna get. If it ain't right--it at least seems fully functional.

Next up: Wiring harness. I seem to have either some extra wires; or the color coding changed.

If the weather holds; I'll "probably" be ready to ride this weekend.

Photos tomorrow...
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Awww, heck. Judging by this picture, I'm not so far off.

I do wish I could find more photos of Fs with the sport fairing for comparison.


Image
 
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charliemarley
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi
Heres an old photo of my bike,its not very good quality but it gives an idea
of the position,yours looks about right,i have an original sales brochure i will
look out in the morning and see if i can get some better pics.
Image
Regards colin
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, that helps. Bottom of fairing about the same height as the bottom of the tank.

Yours appears to be about 1/2 inch to the rear. More of your intake cam chrome button is visible than on mine.

All-in-all, I think I'm satisfied with the position. Gonna weld the brackets and just deal with it.
 
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robbo
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

I know nothing about those fairings but, by eyeball, it looks like you've done a good job lining it up nicely.

Your bike looks good with the red frame by the way.
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry, not my bike in red. I stole that photo from this web site, under the "Super Sport Pictures" topic:
http://www.cb1100f.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=44968

I only meant to show that having the intake cam chrome button mostly covered seems to be "normal".

My photos go up today sometime.
 
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charliemarley
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi
Here are a few more pics from the brochure,you said mine
was further back than yours,there should be two rubber pads
about 1/2'' diameter on the inside wall of the fairing,these should
just touch the front of the tank,so if you have a gap between the tank
and fairing it needs to be pulled back,not sure why you need to weld the
brackets in position unless you have fabricated your own.Hope this is some help
to you.
ImageImage
Image
Image

Regards colin
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That's just what I need: good front and side views. Thank you!

Yes, I'm "inventing" all the brackets from raw tubing, U-bolts, and flat steel scraps; the fairing is from a V65 Sabre. So compared to the "real" CB-F fairing, the "skeleton" bracket inside the fairing is different; the fairing itself has minor differences; and the bracket kit to mount to the frame is TOTALLY different.

I couldn't pay someone to cobble this together--but--since I have the metal scraps and a welder...






Moral of this story is to just buy the right fairing and bracket kit to begin with!
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

As requested: Photos!

Brackets as fabricated and finished:
Image

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Image

Image

More to come later. Still have to add turnsignals and horn; and of course paint.
 
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Schurkey
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Turnsignals and horn completed today. (although the horn has problems; not loud at all and sounds like a sick goose.)

Test-rode it about thirty miles in ~55 degree weather. I should have done this twenty years ago. Nothing blew off at high speed including me. I love it!

The bike does feel cumbersome at low speed. This is probably an optical illusion; I'm not used to having the fairing NOT turn with the handlebars--I'm sure I'll get used to it.
 
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