One sad F,the process and pictures

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Most said to try and save it so here goes the teardown to see what we have Smile

I don,t think it was running well before it died.Camchain jumped time and punched a hole in the head from all the guide trash floating around. Sad

Crank,rods,cases,cylinder check good. Very Happy

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:59 pm

This looks like a good process to watch (for me anyway). I was just a bit disappointed when I open the thread and didn't see any pictures but I'm a little slow learner anyway and just barely noticed that link to your pictures on photobucket! Razz

So............ just in case there are other slow learners, I posted the pics below:

Good luck on your rebuild.

Here's the link to the Photobucket Album in case more pictures are added:

Photo Album Click Here

There now, I feel better! Twisted Evil

Dave

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Thanks Dave.I am a very slow learner when it comes to posting pictures Confused

There will be many more pictures along the way as I try and save this F.Painting.polishing,powdercoating all have to be done along with the mechanics so maybe we can learn a few tips Very Happy

Please pass along any thoughts any if there is a better way to post pictures please help this DA Laughing

Joe

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:58 pm

I wish you the best for this project. Looks like a really big job, but these bikes are worth the effort.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:31 pm

bamaf wrote:

Thanks Dave.I am a very slow learner when it comes to posting pictures Confused

There will be many more pictures along the way as I try and save this F.Painting.polishing,powdercoating all have to be done along with the mechanics so maybe we can learn a few tips Very Happy

Please pass along any thoughts any if there is a better way to post pictures please help this DA Laughing

Joe

Joe,

Just trying to help and keep some humor. I can be a real DA for sure. Click on the QUOTE button on the post I made with the pictures and you will see how to post them. It is the internet path with IMG on either end. Like this:

Code:

[IMG]http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u309/j75vette/1%20sad%20F/DSC00452.jpg[/IMG]

Photobucket has a table under each photo and the IMG code is easily copied and pasted into your post.

Good luck on your restoration.

Dave

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

After a trip to the Honda shop to order parts,I started getting the engine parts ready for the rebuild.[img]

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[/img] I really like this powdercoating,total time on these covers was about one and a half hours and they are ready to use Very Happy

The camchain damaged the head when it was pushed from the sprocket by broken guide trash so it required a little tig work. [img]

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[/img] Tig,reshape and after powdercoat I don't think you can notice.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:35 pm

Wow, You're moving right along. I don't recall ever seeing anyone fix a hole in a crank case before.

Did you say it was running when you got it?

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Posted: 2009-01-13, 06:35:05 Post subject:

Not running,check out top photos of problems.Repairs made to cylinder head due to camchain damage.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:09 pm

The powder coating was done with the Harbor Freight unit? Looks good, I have seen the paint there but could not find the powder coater itself.

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Yes,$49.95 from HF.Powders from Caswell plating.Cheap but works great.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:50 am

You guys are amazing... I get nervous doing an oil change, and you guys are tearing your bikes apart just to clean them, simply F'ing amazing...

Awesome work, keep us posted on bringing this beautiful bike back to life!

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Thought I would share the powdercoat process with you.I use this one from HF cheap but works well.[img]

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So thats whats in there
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Both lowers same condition
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Bead blast,clean and wipe with thinner
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Fresh sprayed powder
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Flow out now bake for 15min
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Cool down and ready to use
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:58 pm

Wow!! thanks! nice job.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:42 pm

silversurfer1050 wrote:

I don't recall ever seeing anyone fix a hole in a crank case before.

That's a cylinder head, not a crank case. The crank case holds the crank... And other important bits and pieces. Laughing

But I am blown away... You have some serious skills dude!! Looks like you need to replace those pitted cams though?

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

[ Looks like you need to replace those pitted cams though?]
Yes I was just showing what I found on disassembly and what 12 years of sitting can do.Scored a nice set of cams and followers from one of our friends in Canada. Very Happy

Thanks so much for the compliment.I hope some of what I post will help/encourage others they can do it to.Yes there are parts of these engines that can be saved with a Tig no problem.

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

For those that might want to know these pictures show how simple a fork seal replacement is.
1.Remove allen bolt from lower[hope better shape than this one],dust seal and snap ring.Hold the tube and give the lower a couple of slide bumps down with your other hand and should come off easily.
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2.Assemble in reverse order.Now is a good time to replace both bushings also.Remember this slot MUST aline with screw.
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Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Had a nice day thursday before work so I had time to spray the frame.A light sand blasting was in order due to the surface rust.
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Used PPG epoxy DP primer
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PPG black DBC midcoat with PPG clear topcoat,final coat of clear had small amount of black added
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:15 pm

This one helluva job you’re taking on but it sure looks like you’ve got your teeth stuck into it!

We’ll all be watching with interest!

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:40 pm

On the TRAC units check the condition of the rubber stopper which faces the piston in the piston collar well. On my used TRAC units some were completely flattened/rotted.
This allows a fair bit of play on the piston collar. The rubber just prises out with a little screw driver. Part number 51441-MC7-003.

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

[quote]On the TRAC units check the condition of the rubber stopper which faces the piston in the piston collar well.
Good tip.I ordered all new rubber parts,o rings,seals,boots,ect.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:10 am

CB900SS wrote:

silversurfer1050 wrote:

I don't recall ever seeing anyone fix a hole in a crank case before.

That's a cylinder head, not a crank case. The crank case holds the crank... And other important bits and pieces. Laughing

But I am blown away... You have some serious skills dude!! Looks like you need to replace those pitted cams though?

Yeah, I'm embarrassed. Wasn't looking that close. Exhausts poking out there.... Embarassed

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:01 am

silversurfer1050 wrote:

Yeah, I'm embarrassed. Wasn't looking that close. Exhausts poking out there.... Embarassed

I am very sorry, I had no reason to embarrass you and should not have said anything. Sometimes I think I know it all. Embarassed

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

[Yeah, I'm embarrassed. Wasn't looking that close. Exhausts poking out there.... ]
Well I don't want to embarrass either but those are intake ports.Just joking now!!!

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Some parts came so bottom end is built.New bearings,chains,seals and fresh powdercoat.[img]

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Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

I had hoped to have the cylinder on also but received a 750 base gasket which does not work to well on a 1100 Sad

As much as I prefer genuine Honda parts I just could not bring myself to pay the price for the valves.I ordered a full set of Vesrah valves.What is the opinion of these from those that have used them?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:23 am

I've used the Vesrah valves no problem

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:17 am

bamaf wrote:

[Yeah, I'm embarrassed. Wasn't looking that close. Exhausts poking out there.... ]
Well I don't want to embarrass either but those are intake ports.Just joking now!!!

best laugh I've had all day - thanks
Laughing

Hawk Joined: Feb 21, 2008 Posts: 334 Location: mobile al

Still waiting on engine parts so took the time to get the rear shocks cleaned up.I tried a different method on the springs and seemed to work well.I gave them a light bead blast,I know but what the hell they looked like crap.I then buffed with white compound and you can see the results Very Happy

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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:58 am

bamaf wrote:

Still waiting on engine parts so took the time to get the rear shocks cleaned up.I tried a different method on the springs and seemed to work well.I gave them a light bead blast,I know but what the hell they looked like crap.I then buffed with white compound and you can see the results Very Happy

Looks really nice!!!

I just wish that someone could rebuild them so they'd work like they did when new. Places I've checked with (Race Tech, Aftershocks) won't touch them. Probably couldn't get seals and parts anymore, if they ever could be disassembled and rebuilt.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:25 am

MikeL wrote:

bamaf wrote:

Still waiting on engine parts so took the time to get the rear shocks cleaned up.I tried a different method on the springs and seemed to work well.I gave them a light bead blast,I know but what the hell they looked like crap.I then buffed with white compound and you can see the results Very Happy

Looks really nice!!!

I just wish that someone could rebuild them so they'd work like they did when new. Places I've checked with (Race Tech, Aftershocks) won't touch them. Probably couldn't get seals and parts anymore, if they ever could be disassembled and rebuilt.

Give these guys a call. L E Suspension are well known.

http://www.le-suspension.com/services/shocks.html