Sportkit shifter refresh kit

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:49 pm

Has anyone used this CBX kit to repair the sport kit shifter? I saw some threads on folks replacing the Heim joints (like the incredible SteveG) but was wondering if this was everything in a complete kit:

http://www.cmsnl.com/products/shift-link-repair-set_02470422000/

The part number does not cross reference to anything by Honda in the US but CMS says it for the CBX which certainly looks similar.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:58 pm

I can't speak directly about this kit but on the CBX the Heim ball-stud is riveted onto the pedal or gearshift arm. Not a separate piece. I don't see that here.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:21 am

Looks like it could work Rick

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:52 pm

I don't get what the brass bushings are for. Are they to replace the brass insert at the shifter pivot point (on a CBX)?

Here's another view of a similar kit (with it installed on a CBX sifter - I think - in the background):

http://www.sixcenter.nl/onderdelen/detail.html?aid=26308&start=7

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:33 pm

Bucko wrote:

Are they to replace the brass insert at the shifter pivot point (on a CBX)?

I think you are spot on, from the same web site:

So i guess you re-use the ball when updating the hardware.

And another pic of a complete kit:

CB1100F Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 3244 Location: NE OHIO

Not having a CBX Crying or Very sad

Are the threads the same as our F bikes ? 1 Right hand and the other left hand threads ?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:55 pm

Luckysox wrote:

Not having a CBX Crying or Very sad

Are the threads the same as our F bikes ? 1 Right hand and the other left hand threads ?

Yes, one right-hand and one left-hand M6 thread.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:21 pm

FWIW, the CBX shifter pivot shaft is larger than the F bikes so the brass bushing are superfluous. I used a CBX shifter on my 750 and had to make a bushing for it to fit.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:41 pm

Seems pretty expensive for what you get. The ball socket things are only a couple of bucks on eBay. I guess you're paying the extra $'s for the rubber covers and one socket with a left hand thread Laughing

(which isn't strictly necessary, although a new rod would be required if you wanted to use two right hand threaded sockets).

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:45 pm

sillygoose wrote:

Luckysox wrote:

Not having a CBX Crying or Very sad

Are the threads the same as our F bikes ? 1 Right hand and the other left hand threads ?

Yes, one right-hand and one left-hand M6 thread.

One of the sockets has a grove - my bet is that indicates a left hand thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:30 am

$11 each for the McMaster-Carr joints used by SteveG plus $10 for the two rubber boots, kit seems fairly priced.

Hawk Joined: Jan 15, 2009 Posts: 408 Location: Plymouth

Need to up date my shifter linkage good information

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:51 am

Honda still makes the boots. I bought two. Didn't seem like they were expensive as I recall

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:19 am

Hondo57 wrote:

Honda still makes the boots. I bought two. Didn't seem like they were expensive as I recall

$5 each at Partzilla and assuming they fit the McMaster-Carr replacements (6275K53/6275K63) from genesound via SteveG so you are looking at $32 of parts (plus shipping).

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:40 am

Sounds very reasonable for a rebuild to me.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:18 pm

Hello!

The boots are not needed with the McMaster Carr joints (which are sealed units). The Honda boot is to keep crud out of the joint. As the McMaster Carr joints are already sealed, the only reason for the Honda boot would be for the OEM look.

How I rebuilt the shifter: Sport Kit Shifter Rebuild

Steve

CB1100F Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2527 Location: UK

Bucko wrote:

I don't get what the brass bushings are for. Are they to replace the brass insert at the shifter pivot point (on a CBX)?

Here's another view of a similar kit (with it installed on a CBX sifter - I think - in the background):

http://www.sixcenter.nl/onderdelen/detail.html?aid=26308&start=7

Yes the Brass bushing are to replace the gear pedal bushes, the same bushes also fit the CB1100R/B/C and D

CB1100F Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 3244 Location: NE OHIO

I found shipping to be very high from CMS . I bought a small part for $12 and shipping was around $18 Somebody needs to order a bunch of these and then resell them here in US where shipping is reasonable for small parts .

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:20 pm

Hello Luckysox. First up - extreme apology for thread drift. Tried to PM you and post on the appropriate thread, are you still making/selling centre stand stops?

OH, and I agree about the shipping from CMS, particularly to Australia!

Regards,

Chris

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:26 pm

I emailed the CBX company yesterday to inquiry about the kits and am awaiting a reply.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:13 pm

Here is what I have back on these:

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The kit will fit on the CB750 -CB900 and the CB1100 bol dor types

When you only want to buy the ball joint set, than i can make a price of
R 6.00 each
L 7.00each
Dust cover 5.50 each
S&H cost 19.50
All prices in EUROS

installation document will be including
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I checked the CBX and it is a 14mm pivot (12mm for F bikes) so the bushings can't be used. Shipping and handling is pricy for a single set but if there was interest in a group buy of the ball joints it it would be about US$15 + shipping (intl and domestic). Honda still has the covers so they can be picked up locally or get them with the ball joints.

So what kind of interest is there?

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:11 pm

No interest from anyone in a set of replacement ball joints? Cost would be about $22 shipped if there were 5 sets in a group buy.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:36 pm

Would that work on my 1100f euro rear sets Rick? If so I'm in. Let me know

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:57 pm

Only US bikes with sport kits use them, none of the stock 750f/900f/1100f use them.

If yours aren't rusted up and not too sloppy I wouldn't bother. I just want a set to try out on a beat up shifter I have.

CB1100F Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 3244 Location: NE OHIO

I might be interested in a couple of sets if you get enough buyers to get the shipping cost from them to you down to a reasonable figure .

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:55 pm

sillygoose wrote:

No interest from anyone in a set of replacement ball joints? Cost would be about $22 shipped if there were 5 sets in a group buy.

If that's joints AND dust covers, I'm in for a set. Shifter rubber would be nice to have too.

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:22 pm

psychodad wrote:

If that's joints AND dust covers, I'm in for a set. Shifter rubber would be nice to have too.

That is just the ball joints with shipping (€7 + €6), dust covers and change pedal rubber are available from Honda and would add another $14 or so.